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PostSubject: Community Build #28 - World War One Aircraft   Fri 31 Aug 2018, 9:20 pm

this build starts on 1st September 2018
the theme is World War One aircraft to celebrate 100 years since the end of WW1
please post all work in progress in this thread
please start with box art and sprue shots

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PostSubject: Re: Community Build #28 - World War One Aircraft   Sat 01 Sep 2018, 3:13 am

I will be attempting something that looks deceptively simple. And I need to get out of the rut I am currently in.

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PostSubject: Re: Community Build #28 - World War One Aircraft   Sat 01 Sep 2018, 8:32 am

im going for a Fokker too

big challenge for me....never been able to planes very well and ive never attempted rigging


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PostSubject: Re: Community Build #28 - World War One Aircraft   Sat 01 Sep 2018, 6:44 pm

Great topic. Unfortunately between current health problems and other commitments I won't be able to participate, but I will thoroughly enjoy watching.

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PostSubject: Re: Community Build #28 - World War One Aircraft   Sat 01 Sep 2018, 10:16 pm

Fokker EII
Eduard 1/48
well out of the comfort zone with this one.......i rarely do aircraft cos i find them difficult, ive never done rigging....but whats life for if you dont try pushing the boundries every now and then
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fokker_E.II






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PostSubject: Re: Community Build #28 - World War One Aircraft   Sun 02 Sep 2018, 4:29 am

Well Paul: Looks as though you are jumping in with both feet on this one. Hopefully, the scale will prove much easier than a 1:72 version.

Sprue and frets for the Dr. I



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PostSubject: Re: Community Build #28 - World War One Aircraft   Sun 02 Sep 2018, 9:43 am

Nipponrookie wrote:
Well Paul: Looks as though you are jumping in with both feet on this one. Hopefully, the scale will prove much easier than a 1:72 version.


i was going to say yours looks easy too......no rigging or camo paint job to worry about...............then i saw the PE! .......good luck, i wouldnt even attempt it

looking at it i assume you get a full kit and then get doing the PE version as an option?

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PostSubject: Re: Community Build #28 - World War One Aircraft   Sun 02 Sep 2018, 2:54 pm

Cole:  A very ambitious entry.  I like that they included the plastic fuselage and wings in the kit.  It gives the possibility for creating a nice "shot up" version for a diorama.

Paul: The EII is a beautiful aircraft with out the trouble of aligning a second wing atop.

I'll be getting in with the Fokker DVI, making us 'Three Old Fokkers'.  LOL
A lot of struts, but minimal rigging.







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PostSubject: Re: Community Build #28 - World War One Aircraft   Sat 08 Sep 2018, 8:29 pm

Having trouble with this one.  This kit is #RO007 - the Vauxhall Staff Car I did was #RO735.  So I think this kit is old.  The first one I tried broke up into about 20 pieces.  Lucky there is a version of the scheme with a large black section on the tail piece.  I gave the remaining decals a coat of Testor's decal bonder.  They're better, but still break up.

I used the unused wheel lozenge and black decal to patch up the holes.  Also a little paint.


A little cracking here from moving the decal around.



I painted the areas with the dark lozenge black to dull it down a bit.  Also hand painted some lozenge inside the cockpit.




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PostSubject: Re: Community Build #28 - World War One Aircraft   Sat 08 Sep 2018, 10:15 pm

im not the only one having problems then lol

ive only done an eduard kit once before and i wasnt impressed with that one either!.....lost a few bits to the carpet monster :(

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PostSubject: Re: Community Build #28 - World War One Aircraft   Sat 15 Sep 2018, 1:16 am

Further progress.  Finished all the lozenge decals, with a few cracks here and there.  But I'm carrying on with this one, no matter what.









Painted the white stripes on - may go over them with cut strips of blank decal paper. A very small model with very delicate pieces.

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PostSubject: Re: Community Build #28 - World War One Aircraft   Sat 15 Sep 2018, 10:51 am

It's looking good Mike. I admire your work with the camo, particularly the hand painted interior.

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PostSubject: Re: Community Build #28 - World War One Aircraft   Sat 15 Sep 2018, 12:19 pm

i will try to get some pics up later.......mines turning out to be the worst kit ive done in years!....thought eduard were supposed to be the one every one raved about?

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PostSubject: Re: Community Build #28 - World War One Aircraft   Sat 15 Sep 2018, 1:49 pm

Looking good Mike, the decal damage actually looks like weathering, well done. Everytime I see one of these tiny kits being built I think to myself, why? Then I have a moment of reality and realize the parts used for engine/chassis detailing in 1/24-25 aren't too far off these little guys.

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PostSubject: Re: Community Build #28 - World War One Aircraft   Sun 16 Sep 2018, 2:16 pm

yet again im not impressed with Eduard, but im making progress


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PostSubject: Re: Community Build #28 - World War One Aircraft   Mon 17 Sep 2018, 9:02 pm

sorry to say but this little Fokker is back in the box!......been struggling with it anyway and now it seems the carpet monster has laid claim to a vital bit, so until it turns up or i get round to looking in the spares box for a replacement its on hold

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PostSubject: Re: Community Build #28 - World War One Aircraft   Mon 17 Sep 2018, 11:02 pm

This little Fokker is just full of little problems.  I got the top wing on but it seems a little low over the MG's.  The struts around the cockpit will have to be trimmed a bit. I double checked pictures of the real thing to see if it had any dihedral to the lower wings, but there is none.  So, it will be what it will be.



The struts still have a little bit of sprue left on.  I tried sanding/filing, but they're so thin they already broke twice.




Looking a bit ragged, but carrying on with it.

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PostSubject: Re: Community Build #28 - World War One Aircraft   Tue 18 Sep 2018, 6:57 pm

I luv the idea of fewer-parts one seventy-second (1/72) scale aircraft. With patience and skill one can turn out very nice work! Plus, it looks like it takes less time to construct and storage after completion takes less space too!
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PostSubject: Re: Community Build #28 - World War One Aircraft   Tue 18 Sep 2018, 10:26 pm

OK... I'm joining in on this one.

This is what I'm going to do:



Rigging?............ yes IF I can find my E Z Line!!!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Community Build #28 - World War One Aircraft   Wed 19 Sep 2018, 4:57 pm

hope you have better luck than me.....maybe the bigger scale will make it easier?

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PostSubject: Re: Community Build #28 - World War One Aircraft   Wed 19 Sep 2018, 11:16 pm

Found my EZ line but it's too fine for 1/32 scale so I'll just be using the thread that comes in the kit. When installed I'm thinking of giving the rigging a coat of clear varnish in attempt to stop it sagging.

The instrument panel is a P/E piece for some reason, upon which you place the instrument decals after which there is a decal meant to represent the wood instrument panels which goes on last.

However, the 'wood' panel didn't line up well with the instruments so I chose to leave it off. Not ideal but it looks better than misaligned insrtuments me thinks.



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PostSubject: Re: Community Build #28 - World War One Aircraft   Thu 20 Sep 2018, 7:11 pm

Instrument panel looks good, Al.

I wouldn't bother with the thicker versions of EZLine - I bought it for a ship model, but as it gets thicker, it is also flat, giving a ribbon-like look.

Ship modelers like to run thread over wax to keep the fiber from showing up over time.
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PostSubject: Re: Community Build #28 - World War One Aircraft   Fri 21 Sep 2018, 12:47 am

Thanks for both tips Mike.

It's not the fibres that bother me Mike but the rigging sagging over time. By coating it in clear coat I'm hoping to avoid that.

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PostSubject: Re: Community Build #28 - World War One Aircraft   Fri 21 Sep 2018, 3:02 am

Skid wrote:
Thanks for both tips Mike.

It's not the fibres that bother me Mike but the rigging sagging over time. By coating it in clear coat I'm hoping to avoid that.

I am thinking clear epoxy or 2x poly-U, something with more substance and setting properties to stiffen up. I have some super thin spring steel rod (.010) I bought years ago just for this purpose. If you send me the total length you need I can mail you some, of course mail could take months.


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PostSubject: Re: Community Build #28 - World War One Aircraft   Fri 21 Sep 2018, 1:25 pm

Steel rod or even wire is a good alternative. It can be roller straightened and easily cut to size. Would look better on a 1/32nd scale model than it did on my 1/72nd Airco.



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