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PostSubject: Morane Saulnier Model L - Parasol - 1/72   Wed 11 May 2016, 8:39 pm

With the Felixstowe coming to a close, I decided to try my hand at this one.  It's an Airframe Kit of the Morane Saulnier Model L Parasol.  The kit is a vacuform kit that needs a donor kit for parts.  The donor kit will be a Revell Fokker EIII Eindecker.  I've never worked with vacuform before, so it's going to be interesting.  It will be another early Russian version with some really cool decals.



Started to cut the wing out then decided - yeah - I should post this.






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PostSubject: Re: Morane Saulnier Model L - Parasol - 1/72   Wed 11 May 2016, 10:35 pm

Hmmmm.... this will be interesting.

I think your biggest challenge is going to be joining the wing and fuselage halves together. Not much contact point methinks!

Good luck.

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PostSubject: Re: Morane Saulnier Model L - Parasol - 1/72   Thu 12 May 2016, 2:13 am

Best to check on what type of glue to use on vaccu-formed parts. The plastic is so thin some glues could eat away at it. Good luck on a new challenge, you are one brave pilot.
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PostSubject: Re: Morane Saulnier Model L - Parasol - 1/72   Thu 12 May 2016, 8:20 pm

Started cutting and sanding.  I can see there'll be a lot of going back to photos to compare what I'm doing.  So far, the wing halves look a bit thick when matched.  Maybe a little more sanding is due.  Rough sanding is being done with a sheet of 100 grit flat on a tabletop.



The third piece here is the profile which goes into the fuselage and provides the cockpit floor and instrument panel backing.



So far, so good.

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PostSubject: Re: Morane Saulnier Model L - Parasol - 1/72   Fri 13 May 2016, 12:04 am

First Vacuum formed model I have seen built. I am very interested in how this goes.
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PostSubject: Re: Morane Saulnier Model L - Parasol - 1/72   Fri 13 May 2016, 4:44 am

So am I.
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PostSubject: Re: Morane Saulnier Model L - Parasol - 1/72   Sun 15 May 2016, 1:29 am

The instructions aren't completely instructional, or maybe because I'm a vacuform newbie, but I figured it out.  The profile piece I showed in the last photo doesn't sit all the way in either fuselage half.  But, when you glue it in halfway, it provides a gluing surface for the other half - DUH!  A little filler will be needed across the joint, and I think I'll try to square off the edges more with filler to look better in scale.  I also added a piece of flat stock inside the nose as a gluing aid.





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PostSubject: Re: Morane Saulnier Model L - Parasol - 1/72   Sun 15 May 2016, 8:38 am

Ah!! so that's how it's done. Nice one Mike.

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PostSubject: Re: Morane Saulnier Model L - Parasol - 1/72   Sun 15 May 2016, 4:41 pm

Looks good.
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PostSubject: Re: Morane Saulnier Model L - Parasol - 1/72   Sun 15 May 2016, 10:40 pm

The seam looks like it could be trouble to get really smooth. Good luck with a real challenge.
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PostSubject: Re: Morane Saulnier Model L - Parasol - 1/72   Mon 16 May 2016, 11:23 am

Interesting !
The graphics in the lead photo are pretty wild !
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PostSubject: Re: Morane Saulnier Model L - Parasol - 1/72   Mon 16 May 2016, 9:39 pm

Got the two halves of the wing together by lightly clamping and using MEK.  Gaps were filled, but there is no bottom side detail in the ribs.  So I'm trying thinly cut masking tape that'll be painted over.  Hope it works out.

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PostSubject: Re: Morane Saulnier Model L - Parasol - 1/72   Tue 17 May 2016, 8:19 am

Good thinking Mike, that should work nicely.


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PostSubject: Re: Morane Saulnier Model L - Parasol - 1/72   Tue 17 May 2016, 7:05 pm

Worked on the engine and cowl.  The cowl is slightly wider than the fuselage, as it is with the actual plane, so I glued a piece of sheet backing to the fuselage. It'll provide a gluing surface for the cowling.


Later it'll be sanded flush with the contour of the cowl.


Rather than scratchbuild the landing gear struts, I used one from the Eindecker.  I cut the outer, side struts shorter and bent the main shaft so it is straight.  The geometry is slightly different than it should be, but it's a lot easier and has a bit of detail on it.


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PostSubject: Re: Morane Saulnier Model L - Parasol - 1/72   Tue 17 May 2016, 7:20 pm

Just looks like you've got the vacform sails of an airfix kit there and they expect you to make an aircraft out of them lol.

add some sticky back plastic, a toilet roll inner and a yogurt pot and you've got a Blue Peter special

Rather you than me Mike ... i have to say though you're doing a bang up job on it !!!
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PostSubject: Re: Morane Saulnier Model L - Parasol - 1/72   Wed 18 May 2016, 12:05 am

Pretty poor definition of the vacuu-formed parts. It looks like either not enough holes in the buck they used or not enough vacuum suction (that really sucks!). Little engine certainly helps with what looks to be not a great kit.
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PostSubject: Re: Morane Saulnier Model L - Parasol - 1/72   Thu 19 May 2016, 8:48 am

Good call on the cowl Mike. Is the engine vac formed too?

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PostSubject: Re: Morane Saulnier Model L - Parasol - 1/72   Thu 19 May 2016, 2:32 pm

Thanks, all. Al, the engine is out of the Eindecker kit thank goodness. I'd hate to see the detail if it was vac'd - the detail throughout is not very distinct.

From what I read about vacuform, there can be both male and female versions. One being plastic formed over a positive buck, while the other is the plastic being sucked into a negative form. The latter results in sharper detailing.

Either way, I'll have had my fill (no pun intended) of vacuform after this project. I just had to do one to experience what it's like. Years ago, when I was working in the steel mill, there was an old fellow who modelled Italian aircraft of WWI and WWII. Back then, after a few available plastic kits, he had to resort to vacuform and scratchbuilding as well as carved balsa. Photos of his work were amazing.

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PostSubject: Re: Morane Saulnier Model L - Parasol - 1/72   Fri 20 May 2016, 1:56 am

A little more progress here.  The tail pieces of the Eindecker were very similar and had detail, so I used those.  Drilled them for the shaft attachment.  Also started the cable tower.


Got the fuselage and wing painted with ModelMaster Tan Ochre Acrylic.  I planned to use Vallejo Ochre Brown which is a closer match, but again ran into problem with Vallejo.  Locally, I can only get the regular Vallejo, not Vallejo Air.  No matter how I thin it, it ends up clogging and spitting.



The included tail piece isn't the Russian version, so I'm scratching that one.  The top one is the one I'll use.



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PostSubject: Re: Morane Saulnier Model L - Parasol - 1/72   Fri 20 May 2016, 10:49 am

Nice work on the tail Mike.

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PostSubject: Re: Morane Saulnier Model L - Parasol - 1/72   Fri 20 May 2016, 11:51 am

Talk about a challenge, man this is really coming along nicely Mike.

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PostSubject: Re: Morane Saulnier Model L - Parasol - 1/72   Fri 20 May 2016, 1:47 pm

nicely thought out and engineered so far Mike .... taking shape now and looking good for such a poor base kit to start with.
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PostSubject: Re: Morane Saulnier Model L - Parasol - 1/72   Fri 20 May 2016, 5:34 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Morane Saulnier Model L - Parasol - 1/72   Tue 24 May 2016, 2:19 am

Laid on some decals.  First time I've encountered this.  They release from the paper in about 5 seconds.  When you slide them off, they seem dry.  But when you apply solvaset, they stick quite nicely.  Begemot decals.


Landing gear structures installed.


Added a couple of ribs to the tail with filler.  Bad closeup.


Also rigged the top of the wing with EZline.  It'll be delicate handling after the wing gets attached..


Those 4 legs will be the only thing holding the wing on the fuselage.


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PostSubject: Re: Morane Saulnier Model L - Parasol - 1/72   Tue 24 May 2016, 8:39 am

Neat job on the rigging Mike.

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