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Post by Shelby Sun 20 Mar 2016, 8:24 pm

Bummer Curtis. Just make it even better if you have to go through that exercise.
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Post by Guest Mon 21 Mar 2016, 1:31 am

Thanks Shelby, it got worse.

A long winded update.

Thanks for checking in guys.

Well my bad luck with paint has struck a couple times with this one. And given the complexity of this paint job I am not going to strip it and just live with it how ever it ends.

Ok so I have been using 2 part poly clear. I have been having great luck with this stuff, it flows amazingly well and leaves a glass smooth surface finish. I laid down a good thick coat last night and imediatly started to notice partials in the paint. Turns out I forgot to run lacquer through first and the acrylic that I ran through the AB prior to this reacted with the Poly, it flushed the acrylic out and left it on the shell. I was also clearing the Lambo shell at the same time.

After a couple hours of wet sanding with 1500grit I ended up with a super smooth surface ready for more clear. So after a complete dismantle and thorough cleaning of the AB and spray booth, I was ready to start again.

I started with the Lambo shell, well, either the poly is starting to go bad or I have and air flow issue with the spray booth and it is pulling too much air. More particles on the Lambo shell. GD it.

Not wanting to risk it I decided to switch back to Tamiya acrylic, and mixed in some gold pearl powder. I've been using the same stuff with  Tamiya acrylic since 1993.

Well laying the clear went great, then I noticed some crazing on the hood and top right fender. Ef it, I am just going to lay down a truck load of clear and wet sand the hell out of it.

You can also see in the pics where the yellow/orange flaked away from the black pin stripping way back when I first started this paint job.

Sorry for the long winded post.

But thanks to anyone who read it and to those just checking in. I am not giving up on this.

Oh and I switched the knock offs to blue, the Orange looked out of place.

And a word of caution to anyone who works with resin, don't strip resin parts in Easy-Off, it softens the resin, I just learned that.

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Post by Skid Mon 21 Mar 2016, 9:42 am

Ah! man Curt, I feel for you buddy, I really do.

I've used automotive 2k clear for several years now but I also use a home made drying oven, in which the painted parts go immediately after spraying. It doesn't completely stop dust but does keep it to a minimum.

Shame about the pin line, it looked SO sharp too.

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Post by Guest Mon 21 Mar 2016, 4:38 pm

That is a real bummer Curt. That paint job was so unique, then to have it go bad has got to be a real disappointment. The saving grace is that it will still make an exceptional shelf model.

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Post by Guest Mon 21 Mar 2016, 5:42 pm

Damn the luck.

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Post by Guest Wed 23 Mar 2016, 4:09 am

Thanks guys, it's all good, looks like iI saved it. I won't bore you with more pics until I paint the window trim. Thanks for the continued interest.

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Post by Guest Thu 24 Mar 2016, 9:17 pm

I totally forgot to paint under the hood, doh.
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Post by Guest Thu 24 Mar 2016, 10:56 pm

Do you have pretty good luck with playdoh masking? I've no success; seems to bleed under every time.

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Post by Guest Thu 24 Mar 2016, 11:13 pm

I don't use play doh John, I use silly putty. It's not a quick process, and only good for when you have no other choice such as in very hard to reach areas or where tape is just a pain. It can't be used to make a crisp separating line. The paint adheres to the silly putty and can leave a ragged edge. I install it and leave it for a couple hours, the stuff flows and conforms really well.
Check out the edge Around the battery.

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Post by Guest Fri 25 Mar 2016, 5:34 pm

I have used both Silly Putty and Playdoh for masking. Both have a place and time. Merc is rockin'.

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Post by Guest Sat 26 Mar 2016, 2:47 pm

Thanks Buck, what advantage have you found using Play Doh and when is it used?

Well my paint woes continue.

I have been using Urethane clear for this build simply because it provides a glass smooth finish with no polishing and or wet sanding required.

Well after a thorough cleaning of my AB and a mod to my spray booth to eliminate the blow back this is the result. It looks as though the urethane is clumping, and orange peel is not normal either, this stuff usually flows like syrup.

Does the the 2 part stuff have a shelf life?
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Post by Skid Sat 26 Mar 2016, 3:36 pm

I've used 2k stuff quite a lot Curt and it does have a shelf life.

If you don't take precautions, the hardener will thicken and eventually solidify. Contact with the air, is what causes it to set.

To prevent this you need to get hold of a cannister of pure Argon gas as used in welding. You will also need a valve for the top.

Since Argon gas is heavier than air, just squirt into the hardener, a  five second blast of the Argon gas. This cuts off the air and prevents it from hardening.

HTH buddy.


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Post by Guest Sat 26 Mar 2016, 5:07 pm

Thanks Al, I will pick up some.

Turns out the activator has a shelf life with this product.  I picked up some new urethane clear, reducer and activator. I will clear it AGAIN tonight. By the time this thing is done it will have about 18 coats of clear on it.
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Post by dublin boy Sat 26 Mar 2016, 5:15 pm

Would you not wet sand it back a bit again before the new clear Curt?
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Post by Guest Sat 26 Mar 2016, 5:24 pm

dublin boy wrote:Would you not wet sand it back a bit again before the new clear Curt?

I will be Shay.

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Post by Guest Sat 26 Mar 2016, 5:57 pm

If it's in a std tin then just lay some cling film on the surface of the liquid, it's a perfect barrier.

If you need a gas then to save some expense of argon etc, bi-carb and vinegar will create carbon dioxide, make it up in a separate container and "pour" the gas into the tin/bottle (ie tip the container and let the gas flow over the lip into the tin .. if that makes sense) it is also heavier than air (just make sure you don't get any bubbles in the tin or it'll screw it up).

Used these two methods for moisture/humidity sensitive dye-stuffs years ago when i was in the lab

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Post by dublin boy Sat 26 Mar 2016, 7:47 pm

Sheldon is alive and well in Scotland! LOL
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Post by Guest Sat 26 Mar 2016, 8:06 pm

Shay, lol, Sheldon.



Snake wrote:If it's in a std tin then just lay some cling film on the surface of the liquid, it's a perfect barrier.

If you need a gas then to save some expense of argon etc, bi-carb and vinegar will create carbon dioxide, make it up in a separate container and "pour" the gas into the tin/bottle (ie tip the container and let the gas flow over the lip into the tin .. if that makes sense)  it is also heavier than air (just make sure you don't get any bubbles in the tin or it'll screw it up).

Used these two methods for moisture/humidity sensitive dye-stuffs years ago when i was in the lab


I never thought of that method, I totally understand what you are saying. I use vinegar and soda all the time to clean out that funky smell from drains. 

I'll give your idea a go Colin,  thanks for the suggestion!


WIP Update:

Well since I have invested so much time in the paint I have decided to add some more under the hood detail.

I am going to attempt to make a fuel rail out of some very small styrene rod.
The pic shows the rod I am hoping I can use for the "T" fitting being end drilled. The bit is .021" or .53mm. The rod sitting on the calipers will be the fuel line, is .019" or .48mm.

I also took the carb off, stripped them and the air filters painted them and reinstalled them.

Also added some PE battery terminals, currently in the works.

Fingers crossed.
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Fuel rail almost done, just needs paint.
Going to see what I can do for carb linkage.
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Post by Guest Sun 27 Mar 2016, 5:47 pm

Nice work on the fuel lines.

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Post by Guest Sun 27 Mar 2016, 6:34 pm

Carb linkage. The detail for the linkage still needs to be workout, i.e. Return spring, pull cable and mounting points.
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Post by Geezerman Mon 28 Mar 2016, 12:49 am

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Nice !!!
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Post by Guest Mon 28 Mar 2016, 1:28 am

Thanks Buck and Clay.

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Post by Skid Mon 28 Mar 2016, 10:04 am

Real nice work on the fuel rail and linkage Curt! Revell '49 Merc. - Page 4 1705482731

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Post by Guest Mon 28 Mar 2016, 1:17 pm

Thanks Al.

The PE work as been challenging yet fun, the carb float bowl screws are incredibly small.

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I won't bore you with any more pics of the shell.

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Post by hotrodmax Mon 28 Mar 2016, 1:36 pm

Man, I hate when a good paint job goes sideways, This is an awesome build just the same, and sharing your experiences can help others in the future. Thanks for sharing it with us!
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