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Post by Skid Wed 01 Oct 2014, 3:21 pm

I have three pre-started builds on the bench but I just can't work up the enthusiasm to return to them and I'm waiting on enamel paint drying on the little Aston Martin Ulster, SO.... something had to be done and this is it.

The kit:

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The real deal...........

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......... but of course, nice as it is, it's also a bit boring, so it's going to be rodded. Not sure yet wether Rat or Custom but leaning to custom.

It's a pre-started kit I bought a couple of years ago. Engine was assembled and painted (won't stay that way of course) and chassis glued to the fender assembly. (which I have removed)

First job is to get the body/chassis fitting and looking correct so the front fenders had to go.

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I'd like to channel the front of the body and I think by cutting a slot in the rear fenders parallel to the body, this can be achieved. This should allow the body to rotate downwards without leaving a gap at the top of the fenders. (hopefully... LOL)

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Fortunately, the kit and the real deal have two spare wheels. I'll use these on the rear axle.

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Post by Guest Wed 01 Oct 2014, 5:08 pm

The picture of the Yellow and Black car is stunning. I never knew this model existed or I would have built one by now. Be sure to put a Hemi in it.

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Post by Skid Wed 01 Oct 2014, 5:43 pm

Be sure to put a Hemi in it. wrote:

Sorry Buck.... going with the original twin cam straight eight.

Working on the principle of a little at a time, I made a couple of tentative slots with my rotary tool and a cut off disc.

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Good job I did as I think it has become apparent, that in order to achieve a front end only chanelling, the slot will need to be much longer.

This isn't difficult but I doubt I could get a fine enough and neat enough cut so that it didn't need filler. Also the contour line would be totaly destroyed.

Overall, I think I'm better leaving it as is.

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Post by beowulf Wed 01 Oct 2014, 8:58 pm

are they the kits wheels/tyres? look a bit bigger than the ones in the photos
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Post by Dave from Pleasanton Thu 02 Oct 2014, 1:08 am

Wondered about the contour line. How about if you add plastic along the bottom of the body to extend it to cover the frame? Since you cut a slot in the vestigial running board how about you cut a wedge out and then bend the outer edge towards the body so that it looks more planned. :-) If you paint the frame the same color as the body you might achieve much of the channeled looks as the frame will tend to blend with the body.
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Post by Sam Thu 02 Oct 2014, 1:58 am

Rod & Custom.....UK style !!

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Post by RetiredMike Thu 02 Oct 2014, 4:08 am

Super cool, Al. Glad you're keeping it an all Euro Hot Rod. A nice modern Jag V12 would be nice.

I'll be watching this one - I've got that Heller kit sitting in the stash. Nice detail on it.
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Post by Skid Thu 02 Oct 2014, 10:41 am

beowulf wrote:are they the kits wheels/tyres? look a bit bigger than the ones in the photos

Kit wheels Paul. Six of them. I'll be using four on the rear axle.

Dave from Pleasanton wrote:Wondered about the contour line.  How about if you add plastic along the bottom of the body to extend it to cover the frame?  Not bothered about the exposed chassis rails Dave, in fact I think they could look cool. Just wanted to get  the front of the body down for a more rakish look. I think adding styrene as you say would only make it look taller.  Since you cut a slot in the vestigial running board how about you cut a wedge out and then bend the outer edge towards the body so that it looks more planned.  :-) Good idea in principle but I doubt if there is enough lateral flexibilty to achieve that Dave.  If you paint the frame the same color as the body you might achieve much of the channeled looks as the frame will tend to blend with the body. Another good idea Dave and one I may well use. Thanks.

Sam wrote:Rod & Custom.....UK style !!

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Or French!!! LOL

RetiredMike wrote:Super cool, Al.  Glad you're keeping it an all Euro Hot Rod.  A nice modern Jag V12 would be nice.

I'll be watching this one - I've got that Heller kit sitting in the stash.  Nice detail on it.

The straight eight is staying Mike. Shay is pushing for a V8 but even a big block would look too small in there.

I've settled on this for the leading edge of the rear wings. I think!!! LOL.

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Post by Sam Thu 02 Oct 2014, 3:05 pm

I dont know Al, but that one of those HUGE airplane engines wouldn't look right at home in there.
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Post by Guest Thu 02 Oct 2014, 5:35 pm

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Post by Skid Fri 03 Oct 2014, 1:20 am

I think I'm getting somewhere at last now.

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Post by Skid Fri 03 Oct 2014, 10:23 am

The modellers mantra of 'Modify one thing and you will need to modify several others also' as usual, is applying here too. LOL

As expected, the front bulkhead is going to have to be shortened and set back a little to accommodate
the engine.  I may raise the front of the a body a little too. The radiator will need to be shortened also.

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Also as expected, I may not be able to use the bonnet.

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I'm going to look into lowering the engine but at the mo, I doubt I can get it low enough. Even If I can, the bonnet panels will need to be shortened. So I may be screwed on that one!!! LOL

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Post by Geezerman Fri 03 Oct 2014, 11:41 am

I like this, Skid !!!!
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Post by RetiredMike Fri 03 Oct 2014, 3:26 pm

I agree with Clay, Al. I'm afraid the top bonnet pieces might make it look more like a dirt track racer.

If I might suggest: I'd raise the body slightly. Cut the bulkhead line vertical and cut the top edge to match the inset curves (Bugatti styling touch). Then run support rods from the bottom sides of the radiator supply tank to the bulkhead parallel with the cam covers.

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Post by Guest Fri 03 Oct 2014, 4:39 pm

I agree with Clay. Put the Bonnet in the scrap yard and see if you can lower the radiator and grille shell just a tad. Sweet looking hot rod.

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Post by Guest Fri 03 Oct 2014, 5:42 pm

X3 Al!! Lose the bonnet. That engine is too impressive to hide. What about a great big beer keg at the rear for a petrol tank??

Notice how the English names rubbed off on me while you were here??

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Post by Skid Sat 04 Oct 2014, 1:11 am

RetiredMike wrote:

If I might suggest:   Cut the bulkhead line vertical and cut the top edge to match the inset curves (Bugatti styling touch).  

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OK.... bonnet is history. Rad will get lowered.



Good idea Jouhn but more appropriate for a rat rod methinks. I've decided this one will get a nice shiney paint job!!

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Been messing around with the ride height and rear wheel arch clearance. I'm happy overall with it but would have liked the fron end a bit lower but cannot see a way to get it down any further, without it looking like a stupid arrangement.

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Post by Johnag Sun 05 Oct 2014, 3:29 am

Hi Al,

Looking very good so far Sir...Bugati T50.... with a difference. Dealer

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Post by Dave from Pleasanton Sun 05 Oct 2014, 8:48 pm

I've seen where the kit exhausts aren't very accurate. Have you run into that? Bugati T50.... with a difference. 2704104872
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Post by Sam Sun 05 Oct 2014, 9:58 pm

Dave from Pleasanton wrote:I've seen where the kit exhausts aren't very accurate.  Have you run into that?  Bugati T50.... with a difference. 2704104872


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Post by Skid Sun 05 Oct 2014, 10:03 pm

Thanks all.

Dave from Pleasanton wrote:I've seen where the kit exhausts aren't very accurate.  Have you run into that?  Bugati T50.... with a difference. 2704104872

Oddly enough Dave......

I'll try this again shall I???

The kit exhaust leaves a lot to be desired when compared to the real deal........

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...... (can you guess which is which?? LOL) so something needed to be done to achieve a little more realistic effect. Not finished but on it's way:

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The kit was second hand off eBay and had been started. As a result, there are at least two parts missing. The first is the little angled dizzy attachment that fits on the cambox. So I had to make one up. Fiddly, but not difficult.

The other know missing part is the right rear engine mout which will, I think, be quite difficult to replicate, so I may just make two scratch built ones instead.

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Post by Guest Sun 05 Oct 2014, 10:25 pm

Hmmmmmm seen those piccies somewhere else recently lol.


This is looking really good so far, chopping bits off and refitting/repositioning wings without screwing up the lines of a perfectly good bugatti is really impressive.

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