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PostSubject: Webber or Ford inline carbs?   Thu 26 Sep 2013, 3:07 pm

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Here in the U.S. the original (mid '60s) AMT Falcon kits had the 4 Webers in a single row
Do you have a pix of the box art?

I wonder if these are the extremely rare Ford 4V inline carbs? They look like an inline  4 barrel Webber. Ford had manifolds that used both single and twin carbs, side by side.

The Ford 4V inline was offered in two throttle sizes, 850cfm for Trams Am and NASCAR and 1400cfm for unlimited racing classes like Formula A and  drag racing.
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PostSubject: Re: Webber or Ford inline carbs?   Fri 27 Sep 2013, 3:31 am

Dunno why the Falcon (AMT) kits used the 4 Webers in line, or if it was even the correct thing. In the models they line up like the 6 Webers in that era's FERRARI V-12. Very close together as in the Ferraris. I would think a slightly modified standard manifold would work since the carbs cover much of the manifold.
thinking about it, not even the Cobras used Webers, too sophisticated and foreign (!), so a single 4 barrel carb or two of them makes more sense. I think even the then exotic Kamm back Cobra Daytona may have simply used the dual 4bbls.
The Indy Fords in the early days may have had the 4 Webers (or were they always injectors?) and the Jim Clark kit may have used them. Also, the first Ford GT Mark I kits (I.M.C. and reissues) often had the 289 small block with Webers plus usually other D.O.H.C. engine.
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PostSubject: Re: Webber or Ford inline carbs?   Fri 27 Sep 2013, 6:06 pm

They also used the Autolite inline 4 barrels carbs that Don was talking about in the early Indy motors.
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PostSubject: Re: Webber or Ford inline carbs?   Fri 27 Sep 2013, 7:54 pm

http://public.fotki.com/TheNewcityFamily/model-car-projects-/1964-ford-falcon-sp/z-1964-ford-falcon-1.html is the link to fotki b&w foto of a Falcon 289 rally engine 1963-'64. Two carbs, also used a small oil cooler.
For Falcon "box art" and instruction sheets, the Fotki Drastic Plastics has a section of specifically AMT kits, the Ford Falcons (the hard top and also the convertible). I built the ragtop back in the day and STILL have it, Woo Hoo!
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PostSubject: Re: Webber or Ford inline carbs?   Fri 27 Sep 2013, 10:32 pm

Ford/Autolite 4V inline carb.



Another view.



Many Ford/Autolite 4V inline carbs.

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PostSubject: Re: Webber or Ford inline carbs?   Sat 28 Sep 2013, 12:57 am

WOW, I had no idea they'd make a 4 carb setup and the "cross boss" manifold is stranger still. A very new take on an old idea. I've seen injectors hidden within a "look alike" carb for a retro look with modern efficiency. This throwback carb thing is a whole different idea, retro-real.
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PostSubject: Re: Webber or Ford inline carbs?   Sat 28 Sep 2013, 1:18 am

While the top photo is of modern equivalents, the original Cross Boss manifold and 4V inline carbs all carry part #s beginning with DOZX. This means they were approved for the 1970 Mustang by the Special Vehicle Engineering Division.
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PostSubject: Re: Webber or Ford inline carbs?   Thu 20 Aug 2015, 4:01 pm

Did you ever find these Don? That setup comes in the Revell 70 Mach 1 kit.
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